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Old 01-08-2006, 11:04 PM   #61
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20 000 za mesec dana
Pazi iako imam 3 sajta vec, i visim na netu bukvalno 5-10 sati dnevno svaki Boziji dan, uvereno tvrdim da se te pare ne mogu uzeti za mesec dana nikako :!:
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hahahah.. Sta mi das ako te uverim da mogu?
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:16 PM   #63
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20 000 za mesec dana
Pazi iako imam 3 sajta vec, i visim na netu bukvalno 5-10 sati dnevno svaki Boziji dan, uvereno tvrdim da se te pare ne mogu uzeti za mesec dana nikako :!:

loop ne kladi se nego uci - prijateljski savet...

moze se zaraditi "komotno" taj novac za mesec dana nije preterao !
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Znas zasto sa nasim sajtovima to ne mozes - zato sto dobijas 30-50 dinara po prodaji... A sa stanim par hiljada po prodaji (30-35$ za prodaju x 75 koliko je kurs $ trenutno) To je razlika...
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:14 AM   #65
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kako ces da dobije 30-35$ kad svi naplacuju od

4.99% do 49.99$

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Old 01-09-2006, 12:14 AM   #66
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Loop...sreco moja...Ljudi zaradjuju po par hiljada dolara dnevno....
Mrzi me sada da potrazim na jednom boardu, da iskopiram thread od jednog veoma poznatog i cenjenog webmastera iz Australije koji je za sat vremena zaradio 1000 i kusur $
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Imash sponzore koji od surfera uzmu 1 dolar za trial period od 3 dana a ti dobijes 25 dolara..Kako? Prosto...Sponzor preuzima odgovornost na sebe, da zadrzi tog surfera sa kvalitetnoim sadrzajem, tako da taj isti surfer kada mu istekne trial period predje na full clanstvo
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Ne, to nije _LB_
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:22 AM   #69
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Eto, Kide zna o kome pricam
ne daju svi iste pare za sale...Recimo, neko daje 50% ...Ako surfer plati 30 dolara clanstvo--15 ide tebi 15 sponzoru...Jedan moj sponzor daje punu cenu clanarine za sale..Znaci, surfer plati clanstvo 37 dolara--meni ide svih 37 dolara...Zasto? Opet isti odgovor--sponzor se trudi ili zna dace surfer sledeci mesec produziti clanarinu i opet platiti 37 dolara a onda meni ne ide nista..
I imas varijante , dobijesh recimo 40% od clanarine, pa ako surfer produzi clanstvo iduci mesec, ti opet dobijesh deo od clanarine..Ima X kombinacija
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Ne sumnjam da ima, ali mi i dalje nije jasno kako ce neko bash preko tvog sajta da se uclina :?
Znas li ti koliko je verovatnoca za tako nesto?
Pa hajde i da ubodes jednog engleza i uzmem 35$, ko mi garantuje da cu da ubodim i drugog jer nijedan sponzor nece da mi isplati ispod 100$.
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Old 01-09-2006, 01:26 AM   #71
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Google mi izlistao ovaj forum kad sam trazio nesto za SEO, pa otuda ja
inace ogroman skeptik prema onome cime se vi bavite ovde.
Mene naime interesuje sta vi kolege radite da bi ste se nasli na sto boljoj poziciji na pretrazivacima?
Ja posteno receno muku mucim
Evo zavrsih pre par dana sajt Please Register or Login to view links i naravnu ubacim meta tagove kao sav normalan svet, odem na google ukucam keyword

parfemi

i izlista me kao 5. na listi (da na prvoj strani)
Mislim ja super je , ali moze to i bolje :razz:
Skinem neke programe za prijavljivanje na pretrazivace i naravno crackujem ih, i sa sva ta tri programa prijavim se na google i ostale pretrazivace, ukupno oko 100 njih.
Odem na google opet ukucam parfemi, ali sad mog sajta nigde nema.
Poludim
Proverim da nisam banovan, ali nije to u pitanju.
Odem na google webmaster servis i napravim sitemap.xml po njihovim uputstvima, i prijavim je on je verifikuje ali nema podataka za statistiku ni posle 15 dana :?
Slucajno prekljuce ponovo trazim po keywords parfemi i google me izlista kao 6. da bi zatim posle par sati opet me jednostavno nema.
Nikako mi nije jasno sta se desava :?
U medjuvremenu sam prijavi link na jedno 50 "jacih" sajtova ali ni to ne deluje
Cak sam i instalirao neku scriptu koja ce da prati koji botovi mi sve indexiraju sajt
Onda sam se prijavi na jedno desetak free hostinga gde sam samo postavio index.html sa kljucnim recima nesto malo sadrzaja i linkovima ka mom sajtu i + stavi meta redirect ka njemu.
I opet me nam na google :?
A na yahoo i na msn sam tek negde na petoj strani
Interesuju me vasa iskustva sa SEO i ako imate neki dobar predlog?
Hvala
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Hmmm... Probacu da pomognem

1. Imas Flash - Pretrazivaci ne vole Flash i Javascript
2. Skloni ove gluposti iz Title taga - ove krivudave crtice...
3. ceo style izvuci iz head taga i ubaci ga u external CSS
4. nemas nikakav text na indexu - za sta da te dobro rangiraju pretazivaci kada imas samo slike, menije i flash header - oni hoce originalan text...

Eto - to bi bio ukratko za SEs Kazem ti, lep je, ali ne funkcionise za pretrazivace... Ovo sto si bio na prvoj strani je zbog domena samo, zato sto on nosi dosta poena za SEO... Ali kada google vidi da nema sadrzaja udari penlizaciju i nema sajta nigde - i meni se desavalo...

+ plus neuredan tije html kod do jaja za moj ukus, ali to je totalno nebitno - to su neki moji tripovi
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Inace pracenje botova i celkupnog traffica se radi najlakse iz cpanela, skines server log fajlove i onda ih pregledas sa Please Register or Login to view links (free je program)
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Brate, imas samo 12 600 sajtove/strana konkurencije na google-u ????? Pa to teba da pojedes za dorucak... Ja sam imao prvu stranu sa recima od p 2-3 miliona konkurencije... Daj bre - mozes da se zakucas na #1 dozivtno za parfemi i za jos par u vezi sa tim...
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Ne sumnjam da ima, ali mi i dalje nije jasno kako ce neko bash preko tvog sajta da se uclina :?
Znas li ti koliko je verovatnoca za tako nesto?
Pa hajde i da ubodes jednog engleza i uzmem 35$, ko mi garantuje da cu da ubodim i drugog jer nijedan sponzor nece da mi isplati ispod 100$.

ukucaj Please Register or Login to view links i nadji na toj strani

"January 8: Two hardcore movies from Zoran" - znaci da je Zoran poslao galeriju i da ga je thehun izlistao a mogu zakljuciti 2 cinjenice:

1. Zoran nije amerikanac...
2. Zoran ce dobiti 200000 - 500000 posetioca gratis... neka mu kupi svaki od 1000 ili 10000 vidi koliko ce Zoran da zaradi ako je PPS $30-$50
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@Loop

Brate ja te potpuno razumem...radio sam domace ne adult sajtove gubio vreme(recimo sa sajtom zvaka.com zaradim 300-500 kinti mesecno, nema lebac) i kad sam cuo za ovo nisam mogao da verujem...Ipak sam resio da se oprobam i ne kajem se, polako napredjujem, pocele su da padaju prodaje polako

Inace minimim za isplatu nije 100$, uglavnom je 50$, sve zavisi od sponzora
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1. Naravno da imam Flash i javascript, to svaki savremen sajt treba da ima, to je jednostavno standard i pretrazivaci po tom pitanju ne prave problem, cak izlistaju sajtove koji su celi u flashu.

2.Ne vidim zasto bi te crtice bile problem ali hajde sklonicu i njih.

3.Ceo CSS mi i jeste u exteral fajl

4.Imam text na indexu nije da ga nemam, ali je ipak bitnije da bude text u meta descriptions jer pretrazivace odatle izvlace text.

+ HTML kod je optimizovan pa zato deluje nepregledno, izbacene su beline iz njega da bi se kompresovao HTML fajl pa zato.
Ipak sam head ostavio nedirnutim, bash zbog pretrazivaca.

I da zaista bih trebao da budem barem treci na google ali nesto me opasno zeza a ja jos uvek ne znam sta
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A koja je fora sa ovim poenima?
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Fora je sledeca...Svaki post koji napises ti donosi 2 poena..Kada skupish 5000 poena, dobijash isplatu u iznosu od 100$ na Epass
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Ok, slazem se da je flash standard, ali ne treba da SE spider prvo zvekne u flash header kada cita stranu (koji inace ne moze da procita)
Drugo, meta tagovi su odavno izgubili na jacini, sada su tu vise reda radi nego sto su za stvarnu SEO... Pre 5 godina si mogao da ubacis meta tag i da pomocu toga budes #1, sada pomocu toga vise ne mozes da budes ni u 1000

Evo sta bih ja konkretnou radio da sam na tvom mestu :

Prebaci header iz flasha u gif ako moze to nekako, ako ne onda printscreen pa static picture ili ih nekako uklopi da bude animated... Onda na to dodaj malo alt texta, na header mislim...
Premesti flash menije na desnu stranu strane tako da spider to poslednje pronadje na celoj strani.
Napisi mnogo vise texta na indexu sa upotebom tojih keyworda (parfemi ili sta vec hoces jos)...
Trazi razmene linkova sa drugim sjtovima slicne tematika iz ex-yu jer 99% nijedan eng sajt nece hteti da se menja sa non-english sajtom.
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