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Ok - here is the list i have been adding to it and reviseing it - im sure it will change too - after my first year in the business - here are my ten things to avoid as a new adult Webmaster.

1. Dont take everything you hear and read as a fact!
A. Do your homework, allot of people have great advice but it doesnt always mean its the best advice for you or your site. Get as many opinions as you can befor makeing decisions!!

2. You dont need to plan every last move.
A. It can be overwhelming at first to achieve success, dont try and do it all over night. A business plan is good, but its easy to get dogma and over shoot yourself - Make simple easy goals for yourself and your site that are realistic. And then make them more and more adventurous as you gain experience.

3. Dont just go with the first Webhost you come across!
A. This is an important one, Allot of companies seem very legit, powerful, and cheap. only to find out down the line that its some guy with 1 dedicated server on his cable modem - Most companies are not going to be there for you when the shit hits the fan - take the extra time and research the host you plan on useing. Cheap is not always better - I suggest spending a little extra and getting a reliable server and service that will be there when you call them. Most companies want you to submit a support ticket - and it sucks ass when you need to fix something ASAP.

4. Do not over tax your Resources.
A. This one is hard for newbies to learn - i still struggle with it as I am a newbie too - When you create relationships with webmasters and other people in the business, its easy to want to try and soak up there brain, and get as much info out of them as possible. But its important not to make these people feel like your questions will never end. Try and findout as much as you can on your own befor dipping into your well of resource. You will be better informed when you do ask.

5. Dont expect magic
A. Great advice and paying someone to do something for your site is sometimes important for the new webmaster - but dont expect someone to wave a magic wand over your site and make it blowup! Its easy to think that other people know the secrets that you dont and want that - but the truth is if you dont understand what they are doing to help you - you are setting yourself up for doing your whole business with blinders on and you will always need other people to do your important work for you. Learn what it is that a person is doing for you and try to make the work they did most effective by knowing what they did!!

6. Dont Banner farm
A. I rememeber at one point I got an email from someone saying they thought my site was " a little busy" when i looked at it i didnt really think so, but i cleaned it up anyway - If i look at that old version now - I realize what a banner farm i created - With things flashing and a million banners and such all over - these sites are the eye sore of the internet - And it never helps with traffic or sales - As a newbie its easy to think that you need this since so many sites are like that out there, but you dont!! Pick a few programs and slowly rotate them in your SELECT few areas where you have this stuff. Keep your site clean !

7. Dont assume everyone is cool.
A. I am way too nice and I think everyone is just like me - unfortunately, not everyone is your friend in this business. And its very easy to to assume that people have your best interest at heart - Thank god there are places like AWHangout - Make sure you have some leg to stand on when it comes to who you listen to and work with - See # 8

8. Introductions dont automatically mean trust
A. perfect example without going into details of names - I had a buddy who was in the business but only for a little bit - I had just started, and was dieing for traffic - I was told "Man you need to hook up with so and so, he is a traffic guru and expert and will bring you crazy traffic and dough. Well like rule # 5 - NOT.
Not only did they not bring traffic but i was left paying out a high percentage of my sales to someone for nothing. Lost $$ instead of made $$ because of loose trust.

9. Dont forget to wait!
A. HEED THESE WORDS - Ok you built a site, feel great about it, have been submitting to tgps, linklists, toplists, buying traffic, doing everything possible and still no traffic right? Well befor you think its all hopeless - wait. Befor you jump in bed with someone else because there is no traffic or sales - wait. Befor you give that 30-50% of your site to someone because your desperate for sales - WAIT. Let the work you have done take effect. I made the mistake of not waiting - and thought all my efforts were not working but they were. It just took a while - After i started paying someone to bring me traffic - i started to see all my traffic come pouring in - and the guy i was paying was trying to tell me -" look at all the traffic im bringing you" but it was all from my months of work prior to hooking up with him. Traffic and sales take time - build your sites followings yourself and WAIT.

10. Dont forget the details wink.gif
A. dont make the same mistake i did - I never thought it was a possibility that my girl would say " i dont want to do this anymore, take it all down right now" but trust me one day you can be shooting ass to mouth craziness and the next day she can drop the bomb on you saying "this is not right" I was complete partners with my wife and she and I built a great site together where we had 5-8 signups a day, some days even more. I never saw it coming - randomly she picked up and left and wanted the site to come down that day. No matter how incredible the situation is and no matter who you are working with - make sure you disscuss the reality of logistics come time where she or you suddenly want to stop. Contracts are hard to use when its your wife, but you must work out something BEFOR starting to work!!!! You may think its never going to happen - But TRUST ME - dont leave this area grey - know what is going to happen if that day comes.

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enjoy! :smt006

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Those are good advices, thanks for sharing :wink:

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no problem, anything I can help
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That is really great information thanks

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thanks dude for this great tips :smt024 :smt023

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Thanks tonya and extreme.

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11. If you're making galleries or free sites - ALWAYS chack your sponsor links... It is common that they are not linked at all or that they are linked to wrong paysite etc... Also check your pictures, they are sometimes linked to your hard drive... They have to be from your server (hosting)...

Will add more these days, as soon as I remember something useful

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its true, sometimes that happen, nice adding kide! :

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wooohoo Kide you are so full of great info

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Thanks... well I'm giving my best

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Great job mate! :smt023
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good tips, some of those things are pretty common mistakes. i made them too :?

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I do made mistake at my first attempts... hope this help you...

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Hi, I just joined and am new here. I just wanted to say thanks for all the great info. It's really nice to find a place on the web where people will share real legit info for free, especially for those of us who have paid a lot of money for info, and still got nowhere trying to set up an online biz.

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Hi Ramona, welcome to Adult Biz Forum You might tell us something about yourself in Main forum

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slutha

Hi There new here but not new to the business! Anyway I absolutely loved this thread! It very honest and direct and sounds similar to my own story starting out a few years ago as a gun hoe uneducated newbie Still gun hoe but now blind anymore or niavee.

Trust for a newbie is absolutely one of those things that happens..when you think everyone is your friend or giving you the right advice. What I have learned is not everyone is honest nor are they your friend.

A few years back when I started out! I believed in people and gave trust easly. It cost me a web site and an annual income of around $2000 per month because I partner up with a crook...a guy that even today hangs his own board in the amateur market.. whinning about the wrong I did him!

What he doesn't state in his facts is I was bringing lots of traffic that was converting and I could sit and tell everyone how I did quite easyly I work my damn ass off .. looking, seeking, posting, and doing whatever it took to bring in traffic.

I live by the model if you want to succeed in this business you better be willing to fuck an old lady ( meaning work work work and more work)

Long story short!

Anyway! I found out from the processor we were using at the time I was not receiving my share of the pay cheque.... The partner redirected the income totally to himself... ahahhaha stupid canadians ..that what I was I did not do my research well enough..well not anymore I know what is what!

Any way in closing!

1) research
2) do not believe everything your told
3) be ready to work your ass off
4) Make decision that benefit yourself and those prospective clients
5) never do anything without having a lawyer involved
6) be honest in everything you do and never cheat!
7) build a repetation of being true to your word and never rob, cheat or steal.. you will be found out!
be ware of lurkers..experience webbies that are not honest and will suck you in for there own financial gain.


O one finally word on the guy that ripped me off when I was new and not so informed I got the chance to e- mail all my members and refund them! So to hell with him!


I never cheat - I never steal and I will not let anyone aorund me get a way with it either... being honest it #1 and the hell with crooks!




Bottom line is this thread is a genuine good one and I joined the board because of it hoping to get to know some of you in days to come!

Kide83

From 1st post of this thread :

Welcome to ABF slutha
Nice story and all, but like i quoted above...

Edit : While i was reading your post i was thinking - cool here's one more good and honest guy etc... But then i saw aff link and all i was thinking before just dissapeared

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slutha

Well I am honest and for this reason I removed the affiliate link! like I said before honesty is number one and if it it offends someone for posting and affiliate link to an honest affiliate program..as you can see I removed the link. Wll have a good one and hope this restores some faith in human beings ::

Kide83

it's better like that, you know that too. i wasn't offended at all by link just it was giving wrong impression - that whole post and everything you said had only one goal - to present aff program...
feel free to add them to your sig of course, it's better way in my opinion
btw welcome again and sorry for kinda "bad start" - i'm alwasy trying to protect newbies and we have lots of them on ABF, believe me

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slutha

no bad start! It all good. yepper! newbies deserve the best treatment. That what we should be here for to cover one another from the predators. ) All good